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[Hemi]

Sabo... LOL Your my hero...... But I would not bother anymore... these people are too afraid of CYA and Starsky... and they will not speak out against them, that was mistake, thinking if someone would start the fire, they would jump in and throw in more fuel, to get the leadership to realize that CYA and Starsky are the root of their problem. What I have found out is that Logan values those two more then the clan itself, I requested that Logan review the DC logs from the night CYA took his creative writing 101, and he never responded, which means he either did not review them, or he did and is now part of the bullshit lie that is CYA and Starsky... So with the realization, I personally think they could loose all of the DC members and it would not bother them a bit, other then having to fork out the extra funds to cover the server they never play in. History is a funny thing, it repeats itself.. regardless of what anyone says... the BF2 server died because of the admin abuse by people like Cya and Starsky, who kicked anyone better then them, as they had to be hacking to be better. Then you add in people like Can-O-Spam who banned people because they would not let them have helo races in the Public BF2 server. Now the 2142 server is dead and the DC server is on life support. I mean.. what will it take to get Repo and Ozz to step up and clean house before these 3 destroy what is left of the 21st? To be honest, it was like a breath of freah air... I realized that I have done way more then what I was asked to do, and it is time to let them fight their own fight. So like I said before.. if anyone of those peeps show up in my TS or website, I will ban them. Your no longer welcome in my company, your cowards who asked another to help and you just hung me out to dry.

[DrDingleNutt]

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I think all of us over here are way above stooping to the level you describe. It is adolescent and exactly the kind of shit that those people who are unwelcomed, disliked and ignored around here. So take that shit and post it elsewhere because I for one dont want people thinking I would even agree with you.

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If you want me to leave you could ban me if not you can fuck off.It's not my fault your to stupid to relize they can't be reasoned with.They don't deserve a fair trail.If someone could ban them it would fix alot.Childish maybe,but it would work.On the other hand you wasting your breath trying to reason with them would do nothing.If I'm such a stuipd moron then take your own advice and ignore me.All I did is express a idea that I thought would fix problems and be funny at the same time.

If you don't like reading what i'm posting you have a few options.

1.Keep telling me how stupid I am and telling me to shut up.So I can laugh at you and tell you to fuck off.

2.Don't read it.

3.Ban me.

It's my understanding that I'm allowed to express what ever the fuck I want here freely as long as I'm not trying to start shit.For a long while now i've done nothing,but try and be nice and show respect to sRs.I do not have to lay down and take shit from you and leave because you don't like what i'm saying.As far as people here not liking me boo fucking hoo.I remember about a month and a half ago certain sRs was encouraging me to join.So that makes me think i'm not as disliked as you say.On the other hand maybe it was a big joke.Either way you can fuck off.

[geNius]

Talking smack is what these forums are for. Sabo doesn't want to be associated with your suggestion, because we wouldn't do something like that (regardless of how many laughs we'd get out of it). We've already been blamed for their website takedowns and TS takeovers, which is almost better than actually being involved with it. PS - You can only lose control of your clan if you give the wrong people control of the servers. Since I don't give a shit, no one gets banned, and no one has any power over anyone else. This is why, ultimately, Ozz and Repo really have no say about anything. He who attatches his Paypal account controls EVERYTHING. Simple, unfair, and absolutely true.

[Hemi]

Axe, when I decided to leave the 21st.. it was because I personally will not tolerate the "Do as I say, Not as I do" mentality. Now I am not saying that I am holyer then thou, just I personally can not live with the fact that we were banning people for nothing, and then have Starsky and CYA repeatedly do bannable offenses. Now with that little tad bit of info (maybe you were aware of it.. maybe not), why the fuck would I do something so childish and morally corrupt?? Am I a saint? FUCK NO Hell I could of done alot of damage, and prolly still could if I really wanted to, but that is not who I am. That is why I was so fucking mad when Cya was telling everyone I was in on the TS hack... when the truth be told, he is the one responsible for the TS hack. as he gave the guy admin rights... trying to remove them from him. Do you realize, everytime the 21st has had issues, it was because of Cya.. he was at the center of everything bad that has ever happened, Relick, TS Hack, EA Complaints, Website Hacks (a result of a ban gone wrong I think).

[DrDingleNutt]

I'm not saying you would or anybody should.I'm saying I would and would laugh my ass off IF it happened.I respect that you or anybody else morally would not stoop to that level,but i'm not you or anybody else.The way I see it banning these fuck heads from there own servers/bfrm/clan ect ect would not only be funny as hell,but they deserve it. How is it morally corrupt anyway?They don't play DC, they don't care about DC,They don't pay for the DC server all they do is ruin and nazitize everything DC.They're just 3 fuck tards in controll.How is it morally corrupt to get rid of 3 dumb fucks that are driving a DC server / clan in the ground that they don't pay for,help build create or sustain?Please explain.....This is prob going to be a bad analogy but here it goes..... Pretend you buy a house it's a duplex you payed for it all your self(or what ever them double house things are called)Someone who you think is your friend and you trust likes it.So you decide to let him stay at the other side and hand over the rights to the other side of the house to him.Evenutally he starts causing problems and then leaves,but refuses to give you the rights back to the house.Every now and then he comes back and totally destroys the side of the house he owns.This piss's you off,but legally he owns it and you can't stop him.Now justice would be to stomp his ass and keep him out,but from a legal standpoint it's wrong. Ok since I suck at analogy's even at spelling it most likely I'll try and explain.The comminity is what built and made 21st DC server not 3 fucking nazi retards.The comminity being the buyer of the house and the 3 fuck heads being the friend. Ok since i've lost track and i'm prob not making much sense I'll leave it at this.The 3 idiots over there had nothing to do with what made 21st a good server to play at.True justice would for the people who made the server to be a enjoyable place to play at to have control with the 3 fucktards getting the boot. I played in 21st for a year and a half.Everyday for hours a day I played there, the one or two times I actually saw CYA and starsky play (never once saw logan) all they were doing was kicking people and disturbing the overall enjoyment of the game.You couldn't even kill them without them threatening to kick you for some bull shit reason.I know for a fact one time CYA was playing and using the mortar glitch on oil fields killing people at that flag with the big oil well things.I've also seen 7th and 7thson doing it,but just kept my mouth shut for obvious reasons. These are a few reason's why I disagree about it being morally corrupt,childish,ect,but everyone is entitled to their own opinnions here from what I understand.......Now I may be wrong so if you'd like to explain why the 3 douchebags over there don't deserve to be banned and outcasted from the DC comminity i'm all ears.A comminity they're not actually part of any ways out side of trying to destroy it.

[VooDoo]

I understand your point Axe, I think anyways. Here is the thing, if we just sit back and let them destroy themselves wouldnt that be better? Why should anyone else do anything (as funny as that would be) when they could do it themselves. Get what I am saying?

[Sabotage]

If you want me to leave you could ban me if not you can fuck off.It's not my fault your to stupid to relize they can't be reasoned with.They don't deserve a fair trail.If someone could ban them it would fix alot.Childish maybe,but it would work.On the other hand you wasting your breath trying to reason with them would do nothing.If I'm such a stuipd moron then take your own advice and ignore me.All I did is express a idea that I thought would fix problems and be funny at the same time.

If you don't like reading what i'm posting you have a few options.

1.Keep telling me how stupid I am and telling me to shut up.So I can laugh at you and tell you to fuck off.

2.Don't read it.

3.Ban me.

It's my understanding that I'm allowed to express what ever the fuck I want here freely as long as I'm not trying to start shit.For a long while now i've done nothing,but try and be nice and show respect to sRs.I do not have to lay down and take shit from you and leave because you don't like what i'm saying.As far as people here not liking me boo fucking hoo.I remember about a month and a half ago certain sRs was encouraging me to join.So that makes me think i'm not as disliked as you say.On the other hand maybe it was a big joke.Either way you can fuck off.

lol, Man if I offended you then my bad. I realize it was just a statement, but at the same time it is stuff like the above that fuels their ability to point the finger at us when something goes awry over there. I mean, picture this, tomorrow something happens to the server. What would be their first assumption?

I was not trying to start a fight with you, I was only trying to clearly state that it wasn’t something we would condone. If I at any time suggested that you were ignorant or otherwise I can assure you that LoganX has taught me the actual meaning of the word. If in the past, I thought you were a difficult person, I have learned that you were more closely related to being a good friend. Finally, If I ever thought that what you had to say to me, might offend me, then I must have been practicing my LoganX impersonation. Believe me when I say that arguing over this stuff has already expended more energy than I should have ever spent over a game. I am to drained to get angry at someone for only having a different opinion than mine. It is only the assholes that wield their power of persuasion in the form of banning those who disagree with them that I would go out of my way to piss in their morning coffee.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Sorry that I came off so harsh and no hard feelings!!? I will also take the "fucking off" suggestion under consideration and may comply as long as you understand that I honestly was not refering so much to you specifically but rather the thought of doing those things in general. (as geNius noted) As Hemi said "Am I a Saint? Hell no!", and neither am I. I am however far more, open minded, interested in a fair outcome (even if it is not in my favor) and capable of admitting when i am wrong unlike the mental midget over at that other server.

Sab

[Moose]

I was only trying to clearly state that it wasn’t something we would condone.
Sab

I don't think any of us would mind if they lost everything over there. Although we would never do such a thing, the laughs would not cease for many weeks. Potato/Potatoe I suppose.

[Sabotage]

Hemi, I shot a pm off to Ozz, but since I was banned again I dont know if he will answer or take any action. Dr.D; I would rather see them kicked where they would have some dinglenuts if they were even half the man that you are. However, since they obviously are not someone would end up losing a boot. Like VooDoo said they will finish the clan off soon enough on their own. in a perfect world though, the members I believed that were capable of thinking independently would have left the 21st and started the 20th S-S and left the three Musta-queers to play with themselves (suddenly thinking of a video that portrayed this). As it is now, how many people actually wear tags and play there? Arent they just a clan in name now? Sadly the S-S has ended up more like the "SS". Paranoia, dealing with their "undesirables" and being led by madmen seems very similar to some other sheep that proudly followed and supported, through active or passive support to histories worst. I just wonder how many of the passive 21st's members will end up claiming "Ich bin kein Nazi" just like their historical counterparts did when its was all said and done.

[DrDingleNutt]

Yes no hard feeling's.I can't hold grudges or i'd hate everybody.I can't seem to spell either.It's hard to tell the point someone is trying to make threw text atleast for me.I really could care less what happens at 21st it would be nice if things changed,but I've already accepted that nothing will change.The only way I see a change happening other then the 3 nazi's dying ,leaving, or getting banned is if the 21st DC players as a whole stood up to them.I don't wish death on no one especially over a game.I don't see them leaving or 21st DC players standing togather against them i'd think they already would have done it , if it was going to happen.Wich is why I believe another admin banning them is the only thing that would work and now I know that can't even be done.

[DrDingleNutt]

Voo I see what your saying,but letting them destroy themselves will only mean the destruction of the only helo server that constantly had people in it (well use to).I know most of you have been over DC for a good while now wich honestly has made me dislike the game more.I play for fun , but it's alot funner with competition.Even though at frist I bitched and moaned over your guys gunning,but evenutally I looked for you guys to be in there.I hunted you fuckers even though I was always gunned out of my seat before I got close enough to fire.Going 10-42 didn't stop me from tracking you guys down to die again. My kdr in 21st was always awsome with out you guys in there.It actually became a bore.A good round with sRs in there for me was 2-1 at best with out like 10-1 lmao.I never would of been as good as I got with out the you rejects buahaha.Although I was never really able to get good enough to handle sRs gunners on my own other gunner pairs ate my fucking missles after I played with you guys for a while.Overall enjoyed the ass beatings you guys gave me,but I'll admit i enjoyed it more when I got good enough to start handing out a few of my own =). Now what do I have to look foward to? Owning you fucker's is what I use to look foward to.Now all I got is capt koolaid and his helo lessons lmao!!What's he going to teach me how to go 50-0

[BigToe]

Anyway just listen to this, it's their new theme song. And think your lucky stars you're not in that clan.

The first one is funny it features Cya, Starsky, Logan and a guest appearance by Repo as Superman. But this is the one that I like:: ... ed&search=

We have a desert conflict Apache server that will be up shortly.
[And we've taken it upon ourselves to take the name.] And,. it kicks the shit out of any DC or DC2 Apachewars server out there. [oh wait it's the only DC2 out there.]
So stop all your fussing, and when our servers up get in there populate it.