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[MAD]

[MAD]

i like it when that Cobra smokes that Vette, i get all giggley....

[Moose]

I have purchased two cars on my own in my young life. One being a '98 Acura CL 3.0 and the other a '05 Volkswagon Jetta TDI. I wanted this information to be known prior to my procedding comments as I don't really have a real opinion in a Ford vs. Chevy debate. This being said, you and/or anyone else on this planet that thinks in that clip a Mustang "smoked" a Vette is high, challenged or obtuse. I have three good reasons to present... First, the vehicles presented don't appear to be traveling at a rate of speed fast enough to "smoke" anything. Secondly, and most importantly, being the reason why I felt compelled to post a response, it looks like the Vette had no idea there was a race and looks more like its exiting a freeway. There for any "smoking" is null and void. Last, empirically speaking, there is no evidence that the video camera car is even a Mustang. It could be a '90 Geo Prizm, which I had as a teenager and on many occasions used to pass/smoke Mustangs, Corvettes and all manner of sports cars. I don't mean to step on anyones toes, I just want to be honest about the posted media presentation.

[MAD]

that corvette was wide open! if u cant see that, well...

[MAD]

here you go- sorry the other video was not as clear as this 1 clearly is

[VooDoo]

Hell I could build a bug to beat that Mustang and Vette. But a modified stang against a stock vette???? come on. I stock Mustang couldnt hold a candle to a Vette

[MAD]

i wont argue that voo....

[geNius]

A stock Mustang can't even lick a Camaro's ass, much less a Vette. I can make a GTI smoke the shit out of a blown Mustang, but that's not indicative of anything, now is it?

...Camaro SS and Trans Am WS6 routinely embarrassed the Cobra to 60 mph and through the quarter mile.

2004 Ford Mustang Cobra SVT 0-60 4.5 1/4mi 12.9

2006 Chevrolet Corvette ZO6 0-60 3.5 1/4mi 11.5


Keep in mind, this is Ford's silly "racecar", with no AC, stereo, etc. (The stripped, track version.) That Z06 is fully loaded, and owning one doesn't mean you have to drink Bud Light for the rest of your life.

[MAD]

^^^LOL^^^ stripped down version? what video are u watching? i was talking about a Cobra (Mustang) not a shelby cobra! u tell me a vette right from the factory can push over 400hp to the wheels with just 1 little blower pulley? even the z06 does not make that much to the wheels. its alot lighter than a mustang, but it will not produce that kind of power for the money! see this is more interesting to me than seeing a bunch of BS in these forums. car talk with people that actually know whats going on. and g, i agree with u about the VW that thing was narly!!! please people when u read this i am not in anyway shape or form trying to be a dick! i just love cars... MaD

[VooDoo]

please people when u read this i am not in anyway shape or form trying to be a dick! i just love cars...

Dude I really wish you would stop being a dick....

[MAD]

^^^LOL^^^ i'm not going to get into a pissing match about whats better and whats not! but i will tell you this, a 2004 Mustang Cobra with a smaller pulley and exhaust will beat a Vette! i've seen it done time and time at the track! Vette does not have any traction whats so ever... but that dont matter cause the Vette is not pushing nearly 500hp to the wheels now is it? but this is interesting. for 30,000 you could buy a SVT Cobra. for 45,000-50,000 a z06! smaller pulley for the Cobra = Vette goes home broken hearted! love u guys<3 oh and Voo, i wanna see some video of some soapbox crashes please!

[VooDoo]

Here you go. Talk about being smoked

[VooDoo]

and another stang being smoked

[geNius]

The 2007 Z06 has a 7.0-liter V8 that produces 505 hp.

http://www.chevrolet... ... ine_en.jsp

Ford loves to play with their overhead cams, but it only makes it sound good, not go fast. They should take some lessons from Honda or Toyota, or just go back to overhead valve.

Ford always had the distributor up front, since you'd be dicking with it every day anyway.

[MAD]

oh u mean flywheel hp? right? i still love u guys though... no hard feelings!

[geNius]

^^^LOL^^^but i will tell you this, a 2004 Mustang Cobra with a smaller pulley and exhaust will beat a Vette! i've seen it done time and time at the track! Vette does not have any traction whats so ever... but that dont matter cause the Vette is not pushing nearly 500hp to the wheels now is it?

but this is interesting. for 30,000 you could buy a SVT Cobra. for 45,000-50,000 a z06!

smaller pulley for the Cobra = Vette goes home broken hearted!

Firstly, I'm talking about this car

http://www.rsportsca...stang_cobra.asp

The best Mustang out.

Secondly, pullies and exhaust do not make your car that much faster. You sound like an advertisement *THIS EXHAUST WILL GIVE YOU 30HP!!!* or *UNDERDRIVE PULLEY ACHIEVES 25 RWHP!!!* which you certainly know is NOT the case. Pulleys will net a maximum of 10rwhp, and exhaust will net in the neighborhood of 5. Impressive. :roll:

I wasn't raised with the "Fords suck" mentality, I arrived at it. I've spent COUNTLESS hours working with bolt-ons, forced induction, engine swaps, and fabrication. I've run NUMEROUS dyno sessions, before and after work is performed. It boils down to this realization. Many people are Ford fanboys, but smart ones admit that the same work in both engines/cars will never produce Ford as the winner.

There's a reason the majority of car builders and offroad racers use GM engines/trannies, even in Ford bodies.

PS - I'm arguing against your points, not against you.

[MAD]

Firstly, I'm talking about this car

http://www.rsportsca...stang_cobra.asp

The best Mustang out.

^^ that is not the best Cobra out, they only made that car 1 year. for obvious reasons it was to much to buy!

now the best production Cobra out was made for 2 yrs. 2003-2004! and yes i have seen a stock Cobra with just a pulley and exhaust SLP loud mouths, run low 11's!!!! it was making over 15ibs. of boost....

i'm not arguing with u either g, but we obviously have some diffrent understandings!

my dads truck for example. 1993 Ford Lightning full roller motor
351 windsor
bored .030 over
trick flow heads
big cam like a 545 lift
edelbrock intake
vortech centrifugal blower 15lbs. boost w/ intercooler
magnaflow single exhaust 3in. custom headers
runs mid 11's on 91 octane
making over 600hp to the wheels... maybe 10 grand invested


i love Fords always have... and i like some GM's. but if i were to put my money into something, Mustangs all the way!

[geNius]

Pushing 15psi is not even in the same zip code as "stock". Like I said before, you can dump money into anything and make it fast, but stock vs. stock and similar modifications to each car will never render Ford the winner. It's just a fact of life.

[Moose]

[MAD]

u pwn moose!