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[Hemi]

but, after thinking about it in the seconds following my first post, I have changed my mind... ahh... wait... maybe.. naw.. well could be.. no thats not right... wait.. I have it.. sure

[Hemi]

but after more thought... I think I should of said... well.. dam... HELP.. I am stuck.. WHOA.... I got it... Lets go with Ford for the Failure... am I right? huh huh.. or maybe be it is Mazda for the failure... same thing as a Ford.. man I am sooo confused.... MOOSEY.... HELP ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OH MY.... OH MY....... OH MY............................................................................................................................................................oh my... aw fuck it.. I'm gonna go snipe...

[geNius]

A debate implies that every party gets to voice their opinion.

[MAD]

A debate implies that every party gets to voice their opinion.

exactly right, sorry if i continue another thought in a completely different post! and if i do not make sence to anyone sorry. its not my fault people do not get me and what i'm about!

if my opinions seem to be completely out of left field, well excuse me! i was raised to express myself and never hold anything back... its not in me to keep quite about certain things! i'm a truthful guy. and thats how i'm raising my daughter. if something is on your mind you need to let it out. holding it all in will only cause more problems!

[geNius]

A debate implies that every party gets to voice their opinion.

exactly right, sorry if i continue another thought in a completely different post! and if i do not make sence to anyone sorry. its not my fault people do not get me and what i'm about!

if my opinions seem to be completely out of left field, well excuse me! i was raised to express myself and never hold anything back... its not in me to keep quite about certain things! i'm a truthful guy. and thats how i'm raising my daughter. if something is on your mind you need to let it out. holding it all in will only cause more problems!

I meant that you shouldn't get angry when people disagree with you in a forum. The idea is to form another argument and post that.

[Attris]

You had me at Hello... hehe

[MAD]

A debate implies that every party gets to voice their opinion.

exactly right, sorry if i continue another thought in a completely different post! and if i do not make sence to anyone sorry. its not my fault people do not get me and what i'm about!

if my opinions seem to be completely out of left field, well excuse me! i was raised to express myself and never hold anything back... its not in me to keep quite about certain things! i'm a truthful guy. and thats how i'm raising my daughter. if something is on your mind you need to let it out. holding it all in will only cause more problems!

I meant that you shouldn't get angry when people disagree with you in a forum. The idea is to form another argument and post that.

wow you can tell by my text that i'm angry?

just some people tend to think it is ok to be arrogant towards me! i cannot stand arrogance!

who cares anyways..... :roll:

cant we all be cyber friends, and come together and kill people and have fun? :roll:

[DrDingleNutt]

Everyone signed up for the military, so fuck them if they cry about having to do their job.

I doubt killing innocent people , risking their lives in a senseless war , and risking their lives to fatten the pocket of George Dumbya Bush and a few select others was in the job description when they signed up.

Everyone acts like ending the war is so complex.Try bringing the troops home.Who cares wtf they do over there.Want to protect our country bring our troops home station them around the country in key positions.Build bases, missle defense systems or wtf ever it is we need to protect ourselves.

''The best way to protect the basket , is to stand under the goal'' er somthing like that.

[geNius]

wow you can tell by my text that i'm angry?

just some people tend to think it is ok to be arrogant towards me! i cannot stand arrogance!

Yes, since you say you cannot stand arrogance. Where do you get arrogant in a difference of opinions?

I doubt killing innocent people , risking their lives in a senseless war , and risking their lives to fatten the pocket of George Dumbya Bush and a few select others was in the job description when they signed up.

It is not up to them to decide when and where they will fight. That is part of the job description.

Everyone acts like ending the war is so complex.Try bringing the troops home.Who cares wtf they do over there.Want to protect our country bring our troops home station them around the country in key positions.Build bases, missle defense systems or wtf ever it is we need to protect ourselves.

-Acts of terrorism aren't solved with missile defense.
-An unstable government there (if we leave) will lead to another war.
-Their problems ARE our problems (Roosevelt had a bit to say on this).

:arrow: irrational parties controlling a large percentage of the world's oil resource affects the global economy.

Once everyone starts forming their own opinions that aren't taken directly from biased sources, I will listen.

The standard "war is bad"," GWB lied", "bring everyone home", "worry about ourselves", and other such generalizations are not arguments without some sort of rational supportive reasoning.

[Moose]

I doubt killing innocent people , risking their lives in a senseless war , and risking their lives to fatten the pocket of George Dumbya Bush and a few select others was in the job description when they signed up.

So what you are saying is, a person that joins the military has no clue that they may have to go to war. Military... War... Military

''The best way to protect the basket , is to stand under the goal'' er somthing like that.

Actually, the best way to protect my basket is to play on someone else's court.

[MAD]

Dr. Dingleshmuck, that has to be the best statement from you that i have ever read! i guess you and i are alone on ending the war. these other war hungry money hungry republicans dont see it the way we do! bring on Hillary!!!!!!

[DrDingleNutt]

The way I'm taking what you two ( Genius , Moose ) are saying is that , being part of the military means your just the govt's disposable bitchs.Of course joining the military means you may have to go to war and I'm sure most who sign up know this , but it dosen't mean they can put your life on the line for any bullshit reason they want.Well they can as they already have , but that dosen't make it right.I don't know how my opinnions are biased or what ever I do my own research and go to sites that go both ways.I look at both sides try and focus on the facts and form my own opinnion.I just tend to agree more with people against the war. If your not willing to fight and die for a cause you shouldn't be sending off other people to fight and die for you.You think we'd be at war right now if all the overpaid rich people who run our country was on the front lines?The bottom line to me is that to many people disagree with the war for us to be fighting it.I have several friends and family members in different parts of the military who disagree with the war.Luckly none have died or even been injured yet , but it makes me sick to think one could die for the purpose of fattening a few pockets.There's way to much shady bull shit going on with George Bush and others at the top to have me think anything else but this war is just for their wallet.You'd have to write off 100 things as coincidence in order to not believe atleast some of the motive for this war is for money for the already rich.Greedy bastards...

[geNius]

The way I'm taking what you two ( Genius , Moose ) are saying is that , being part of the military means your just the govt's disposable bitchs.Of course joining the military means you may have to go to war and I'm sure most who sign up know this , but it dosen't mean they can put your life on the line for any bullshit reason they want.Well they can as they already have , but that dosen't make it right.I don't know how my opinnions are biased or what ever I do my own research and go to sites that go both ways.I look at both sides try and focus on the facts and form my own opinnion.I just tend to agree more with people against the war.

Much like prisoners, military personnel don't have the same rights we do.

If your not willing to fight and die for a cause you shouldn't be sending off other people to fight and die for you.You think we'd be at war right now if all the overpaid rich people who run our country was on the front lines?The bottom line to me is that to many people disagree with the war for us to be fighting it.I have several friends and family members in different parts of the military who disagree with the war.Luckly none have died or even been injured yet , but it makes me sick to think one could die for the purpose of fattening a few pockets.There's way to much shady bull shit going on with George Bush and others at the top to have me think anything else but this war is just for their wallet.You'd have to write off 100 things as coincidence in order to not believe atleast some of the motive for this war is for money for the already rich.Greedy bastards...

Somehow, I don't believe you. At all. Every one of my Marine buddies fully supports what we are doing over there, because they have been there more than once. When I say this, I mean every single one. Not most. Not some. Every single one.

Try not to simplify.

·Explain fattening a few pockets
·Elaborate shady shit
·Expand motive for this war is for money

Are these broad, ignorant generalizations you've heard on TV or read in the newspapers? Do you understand that people and interests control the news media, and none of it is un-biased? Can you form your own opinions and produce evidence of your reasoning?

[DrDingleNutt]

Sure I'll provide links.Over the years of surfing I've been to many different sites alot of wich say the same things.It could be they're all full of shit , but I some how doubt it.When some actor can have fake porn pictures of themselves removed off the net.I'm sure the president could have sites removed that lie about him for the purpose of making him out to be a complete nazi ,asshole ,douchebag, cocksucker, criminal fuck head ,who needs to be beatin ,tourtured , raped , and skull fucked to death on live television.Yes indeed all of these places are biased in one way or another but isn't the same everywhere.Any writer or tv producer or what have you is going to add in their own prespective.It's your job to concentrate on the facts presented and not allow their own belief's to infuluence your opinnion.Wich is what I try and do.I don't have sites memorized or anything so give me a few days and I'll get some info and post it.

[Moose]

Logically, why would the president have a war for his wallet? A person who never has to do anything again except to make 5 speeches a year, travel to foreign countries and play nice and get important stuff named after them. Do you think someone like that goes to war for fun.
May I remind you that the legislative branch also approved going to war. So 2/3 of the branches of our government decided that eradicating a dictatorship was necessary, establishing a presence in an area that would benefit the entire world, fighting a bunch of douche bags that a) cannot remain peaceful amongst themselves put bombs on kids an train them to walk into crowded areas and hit the red button c) have proven they have resources to train and fund people to fly planes into our economic hub.
The area where these idiots are winning is media, They have convinced our media and therefore the common people that read those same idiot biased reports that we are at war with Iraq. The terrorist groups do not see the same lines on a map that we are taught in school. They are breeding hate mongers in caves and are teaching that anyone that is fair skinned is inherently evil.

[zanshin]

bring on Hillary!!!!!!

"Shame on you" (my grandmas shaking her finger at you)

[DrDingleNutt]

Logically, why would the president have a war for his wallet? A person who never has to do anything again except to make 5 speeches a year, travel to foreign countries and play nice and get important stuff named after them. Do you think someone like that goes to war for fun.
May I remind you that the legislative branch also approved going to war. So 2/3 of the branches of our government decided that eradicating a dictatorship was necessary, establishing a presence in an area that would benefit the entire world, fighting a bunch of douche bags that a) cannot remain peaceful amongst themselves put bombs on kids an train them to walk into crowded areas and hit the red button c) have proven they have resources to train and fund people to fly planes into our economic hub.
The area where these idiots are winning is media, They have convinced our media and therefore the common people that read those same idiot biased reports that we are at war with Iraq. The terrorist groups do not see the same lines on a map that we are taught in school. They are breeding hate mongers in caves and are teaching that anyone that is fair skinned is inherently evil.

Yeah he got the legislative branch to approve going to war AFTER he lied and scared everyone into believeing that iraq possesed weapons of mass destruction and they'd use them on us of we didn't act.When we couldn't find them he kept claiming we would evenutually.Even though he recieved memo in 2002 that told him iraq didn't have any WOMD.After everyone relized he was full of shit he just made up new reasons for staying and continues to do so.

[MAD]

roger that^^^

[geNius]

Yeah he got the legislative branch to approve going to war AFTER he lied and scared everyone into believeing that iraq possesed weapons of mass destruction and they'd use them on us of we didn't act.When we couldn't find them he kept claiming we would evenutually.Even though he recieved memo in 2002 that told him iraq didn't have any WOMD.After everyone relized he was full of shit he just made up new reasons for staying and continues to do so.

You can come search my house for my shotgun. I will show you all the places you may look in.

Did everyone forget March 16 and March 17, 1988. Mustard gas ring a bell?

Nations including France and Germany were opposed to war, primarily because of their financial interests in Iraq.

[zanshin]

"You can come search my house for my shotgun. I will show you all the places you may look in."...........lmmfao. IMO the whole WMD was and still is a threat. Lets not wait until they launch one and look in the sky and say" THERE IT IS"....lol. Plus it was only one of many aspects, Dingle. I think that it was focused on so much because it was the one aspect that would gain the most support. Just so you know....Saddam had a people killing problem.............kinda want to get rid of a fucker like that before he ends up like someone else in history. "NIp it in the bud" seems fitting. So does learn from past mistakes. Didnt we wait too long the last time this shit happened. And it goes on and on (that little fucker and his drum). later all, stay focused but not narrow minded.